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 GrumpyDave
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 GrumpyDave
  Posted 13/02/2007 12:24:17 AM
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Remember the Chevron discussion that originated from one of the posted photo's?  Well, I got this on e-Bay this morning. Check these out. He's holding what apears to be an NCO sword and has on an NCO belt. Is this Indian wars? Yellow or light blue trim?

http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/9803/unidentifiedfirstsergearn9.jpg

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 Bill
  Posted 13/02/2007 03:06:58 PM
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Hey Grumpy,

Do you think this guy wanted everybody to know he was the First Shirt?

Lot of interesting stuff in this photo. Did you notice the slight curve in that sword's blade and the placement of the buckle on the Sam Brown belt? I'm thinking that may be some form of Foot Officer's sword. Notice the thumb breaker on the hilt. He does seem to be wearing a standard Federal frock coat. If this is an Indian War photo, the guy had to be in some State Militia unit. The Regular Army and regular army regulations were back in effect after the War ended.

 

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 philk
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  Posted 16/07/2007 12:13:59 AM
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Bill
Not sure that sword blade is actually curved. At that angle, it may appear curved while actually being straight. I also don't think there's much chance of the image not being Civil War. According to Ross Kelbaugh's "Directory of Maryland Photographers, 1839-1900," Young operated at this address from 1860 to 1864; he then moved to 465 W. Baltimore, where he worked until 1870.
Phil

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 toptimlrd
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  Posted 16/07/2007 12:44:36 AM
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He is quite the dandy. His hair looks almost like a more modern cut as well almost looks like it is tapered in the back (disregarding the beard).  

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Robert Collett
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  Posted 16/07/2007 07:43:25 PM
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Its a ZZ top beard

Dulcie White

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 toptimlrd
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  Posted 16/07/2007 08:20:03 PM
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Quote :

chatrbug wrote : Its a ZZ top beard





Nah, it's not quite that long.

Robert Collett
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 GrumpyDave
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  Posted 17/07/2007 06:38:17 AM
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"Regulations for the Army of the Confederate States, 1863.":

[Para.] 1529. [p. 406]: The rank of non commissioned officers will be marked by chevrons on both sleeves of the uniform coat and the overcoat, above the elbow, of silk and worsted binding, half an inch wide; color the same as the edging of the coat; points down, as follows:

1530. For a Sergeant Major--three bars and an arc in silk.
1531. For a Quartermaster Sergeant--three bars and a tie in silk.
1532. For an Ordnance Sergeant--three bars and a star in silk.
1533. For a First (or Orderly) Sergeant--three bars and a lozenge in worsted [wool].
1534. For a Sergeant--three bars in worsted.
1535. For a Corporal--two bars in worsted.

The above was what was said. However, the sky was the limit for what was actually done. For example, one or more surviving RD jackets sport sergeants stripes made out of black velvet.

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