he was 65 when the war started...

i love going cemetery walking, so found one that is pretty old... if you want, i blogged it, lots of cw graves there
http://www.xanga.com/railroadwife1995  

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Possible veteran of War 1812 would have been 16, more than likley the Mexican War. Now is your chance to do a little research and find out more about the deceased.

the thing is... look at the star to the right, it says 1861-1865

okay did a search on his name....

he was drafted from Punxsutawney PA December 19, 1864... they did it through the draw of a wheel
heres the link http://www.pa-roots.com/~pacw/infantry/jeffcodraft2.htm

you have to scroll down to  "DRAFT OF DECEMBER 19, 1864"

its the only name i came up with that the dates are appropriate.

This would be

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Reuben Colburn Winslow who was born June 28, 1796 in Pittston, Kennebec County, Maine; died August 26, 1871 near Lock Haven, Pennsylvania; married Elizabeth Collins November 15, 1818 in Curivinsville, Clearfield County, Pennsylvania; born July 16, 1800 on the Atlantic Ocean.

http://www.carwashguys.com/founderancestry.pdf

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Reuben (or Cobbie) was supposedly a member of Company G of the original Bucktails, (Kanes Rifle Regt, 1st PA Rifles, 13th PA Reserves, 42nd PA Regt) but he was listed as not being present when the Bucktails were mustered out in 1864.  Apparently one of his records states that he was transferred to the regular army, but no unit was given.

http://genforum.genealogy.com/cgi-bin/pageload.cgi?Reuben::winslow::1601.html

There, how's that?    

Awesome!!!

Hmm... I dont recall seeing his wifes headstone. I may have to go back... and yes he is buried in Lock Haven Right behind Lock Haven University, down a road you wouldnt even think would have a cemetery. It isnt marked. If you check my blog you can see more pics.

I think I may need to go back and see if I can find his wifes headstone, but for some reason I dont recall seeing it. But then again... I took about 50 pics of headstones and we looked at almost every single headstone that we could.

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chatrbug wrote : okay did a search on his name.... he was drafted from Punxsutawney PA December 19, 1864...

Drafted?  At age 68? I wouldn't think so, and to become a lieutenant in just four months?  I'm betting that must be a different Reuben.  But that's just my take on it.  I saw that Reuben also, but rejected him after finding the other one.  

Actually, if you go to the above mentioned PDF file you'll see that there is a Reuben Winslow who was from Elk County, PA and born in 1834 and married on July 4, 1865.  From a quick glance it looks like he could be the nephew of our Lieutenant?  Just a guess.    

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Okay... found a page that has names and where the graves are.. and Elizabeth is on there, right next to him.

Its not a name you would hear all the time, thats for sure. I didnt think he would be drafted either.

Probably is nephew..though I dont know any more info as he was the only one there with that name.. besides his wife (who I strangely dont recall..but I wasnt paying attention to the wives).

Our guy was living in Pennsyvania in 1860, who'd of thunk.

According to the 1860 census Reuben Winslow was 64 years old, Male, Lumberman, with real estate valued at $60,000 and personal estate at $1,000.  He was born in Maine.  Living with him was:

Eliz          age 60 female born "at sea"
James Winslow age 60 male carpenter born in Maine
Chas H.       age 21 male Clerk born in Pennsylvania
R.C. (Reuben Colburn?) age 39 male Lumberman real estate valued at $12,000 personal at $800 born in Pennsylvania.
and six other adult males two farm laborers, one miller?, and three day laborers.

I'm assuming that R.C. was Reuben Colburn Winslow, but he'd be too old to be our draftee.  So, back to the census.  A search for the surname Winslow in Pennsylvania gives five results.

This, I believe may very well be our draftee. (And, btw, the third Reuben Winslow in Benezette Twp. Elk County, PA!)

Geo. Winslow age 40 male Farmer
Beulah Winslow age 64 female [mother?]
Reuben Winslow age 25 male Farm Laborer
John Hayes age 24 male farm laborer.

Linda.  

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Linda.. how are you finding all this info? My web search didnt bring up near the info yours did. And I have several others I would like to search (then again I have about 150 headstones of those that served in the CW from just this one cemetery!).

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chatrbug wrote : the thing is... look at the star to the right, it says 1861-1865

OOps my screen did not show the GAR marker...I have found through the years that Hank and Linda Trent are very good at researching anything 19th century related. Have always enjoyed their presence at events.

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Marc wrote :  OOps my screen did not show the GAR marker...I

Hi Marc,

When she mentioned the star, I didn't see it either, so I went to her blog.  If you didn't go there that would be why you didn't see it.  

BTW, I wonder at his age to start out as a Lieutenant, or any commissioned officer, if he didn't have some prior military career, (i.e. the War of 1812 and/or War with Mexico).  

Linda.  

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chatrbug wrote : Linda.. how are you finding all this info? My web search didnt bring up near the info yours did. And I have several others I would like to search (then again I have about 150 headstones of those that served in the CW from just this one cemetery!).

I used a combination of the Civil War Soldiers and Sailors site http://www.civilwar.nps.gov/cwss/, Google, and Heritage Quest (the latter is a pay for genealogical site that includes the 1860 census).  The Civil War Soldiers site turned up negative.  Only a Reuben Winslow who served with an Ohio Cavalry regt. who appears to have been killed in action.

On Google I searched ("Reuben Winslow"), ("Reuben Winslow" Lieutenant), ("Reuben Winslow" 1796) and after finding out he was with the Bucktails I searched (Bucktails Winslow).

The census, of course, revealed his prominence in society by giving his occupation, his financial status (real and personal), his birthplace, and those living with his family.

Further searching the census I found George and his son Reuben, who is our draftee (I believe) at the age of 29 in 1864.  

And since I started typing this message Hank just found the following, and I haven't actually checked to make certain it's the right guy, but...

If you search Google books there's one or two more hits.

And with the Making of America (U Michigan) you'll find An Illustrated History of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, 1876. The last page linked tells that Reuben founded the town of Benezette, and lost his life in a collision of trains upon the Philadelphia and Erie railroad at Westport. (see http://tinyurl.com/29nwgo)

Hank also just sent me the following: George Wait Winslow house, built on land owned by Reuben Winslow.
http://www.orgsites.com/pa/winslowhouseheritagecouncil/index.html

Anyway, you just play around with names and other pieces of information that you learn, and see what comes up.  Be careful with family histories that aren't footnoted since there's a lot of careless stuff out there, and don't forget to check local histories and such.  

I've done genealogy for 37 years now, and I love mysteries, and will be publishing my father's family history hopefully on Friday when my disk comes back from the computer people who are embedding my fonts and photographs for me.

Hope this helps some,

Linda.  

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Linda Trent wrote :   And with the Making of America (U Michigan) you'll find An Illustrated History of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, 1876. The last page linked tells that Reuben founded the town of Benezette, Linda.

Watch out for the Pennsylvania Elk Herd in Benezette.
Speaking of cemetaries, I was in Concord, Mass at the beginning of the month and found an old, I mean old cemetary next to a church. I thought I might find a few CW veterans, but the last burial I could find was like 1832. This one went way back and the black slate markers, very hard to read...needed to do etchings I guess. I was amazed at the life span of some of the deceased. 80+ years in a lot of cases, but I just wonder what quality of life they had. If you ever get to Concord stop at the Concord Museum on the way into town. Very nice collection of artifacts before the CW and also one of Revere's lanterns is there. Orginal clothing also leading into the 1860s as well as a CW frock coat. Well worth the time to spend there.

look what i found...
http://catskillarchive.com/rrextra/wkbkch14.Html

the train collision of august 1871 in westport MA...  

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chatrbug wrote : look what i found... http://catskillarchive.com/rrextra/wkbkch14.Html the train collision of august 1871 in westport MA...

Ironic, but I believe wrong state. I would assume Reuben was killed at Westport, PA which is near Emporium, PA since it was the Philadelphia and Erie Railroad. I will see if I can find anything on the wreck a in PA.

Reminds me of the train accident with Confederate Prisoners heading to Elmira, NY and the accident near Wilkes-Barre, PA

While quickly looking for the Westport, PA incident came across this letter which is quite interesting as to whom addressed, not our present subject however, but interesting none the less...

http://wnyrails.org/news/c0000043.htm

i had thought it would be pa too... but would there really be 2 train collisions on the same day?

heres one for you marc... my dh is supervisor for norfolk southern... guess which territory he covers? all of what is posted in that article! how funny is that.

you know what... im going to see if he has any way of finding out about accidents that happened that far back. because i bet anything if it wasnt in westport ma... then it would have been on the territory that dh is in charge of now.

The history channel had a special on the early trains and was it ever dangerous until they got air brakes and better signals etc which was more into the 20th century.

Especially in the East I can understand more than one wreck in one day. Since Reuben lived so near Westport, PA I would think it happened there. Now the one in Mass could have been a big wreck and the PA just a small one. Need to get one of those little books out about the early Railroads etc up Pinecreek. The ones you see for sale in the restaurants etc. Have spent many a day up in Pine Creek Area fishing and hiking. The water is quite cold at Little Pine Dam.

Now if my brother was still alive he would know the answer. He was a railroad nut and knew all the routes and history of the Pennsy, Reading and NY Central as well as all the tracks and stations on the East Coast.