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 Bill
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  Posted 20/02/2009 08:18:24 PM
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Evaporated Milk was not patented until November, 1884. The only product that is correct for our period is Sweetened Condenensed Milk, which was patented in 1856.

By 1864, the Borden's Company, under the Eagle Brand, was using 20,000 gallions of milk per day to manufacture canned Sweetened Condenensed Milk, most of which went to the Union Army. That's a lot of canned milk.

A standard 14 oz can cantained 1,300 calories, 30 g each of protein and fat and more than 200 g of carbohydrates. Sweetened Condenensed Milk is roughly 45% sugar. The sugar prevents microorganism growth.

Evaporated milk requires far more processing then Condenensed Milk, because it lacks the added sugar.

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  Posted 21/02/2009 09:16:45 AM
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I've had this for years:

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 Bill
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  Posted 21/02/2009 11:52:25 AM
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Quote :

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A standard 14 oz can cantained 1,300 calories, 30 g each of protein and fat and more than 200 g of carbohydrates. Sweetened Condenensed Milk is roughly 45% sugar. The sugar prevents microorganism growth.

Evaporated milk requires far more processing then Condenensed Milk, because it lacks the added sugar.




Grumpy,

Eagle Brand Condenensed Milk still comes in 14 oz. cans. A 12 oz. can of Evaporated milk comes in 6 and 12 oz. cans. A 12 oz. can of Evaporated milk is much bigger than the 14 oz. can of Condenensed milk. (These are things I learned while rumminging around in Sandy's baking cabinet.) In thinking about it, I've seen a lot of those little 6 oz. cans of Evaporated milk at events.

This thread came about because of a dinner conversation. Somehow, we got on the subject of evaporated milk. I made the statement that I thought condenensed and evaporated milk were the same thing by different names. Sandy told me I didn't know what I was talking about. (I hear that quite often!) I got on the computer, so I could proove I was right. Of course, Sandy was right and I was wrong. I should have known better than to doubt she who knows all, when it comes to food. (And most other subjects.)   smile/tracker.gif

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  Posted 21/02/2009 02:45:39 PM
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Yup, if a recipe calls for one you can usually use the other, just remember condensed is quite a bit sweeter. A little of it is great in coffee!

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 Bill
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  Posted 21/02/2009 04:45:27 PM
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Private Glover wrote : Yup, if a recipe calls for one you can usually use the other, just remember condensed is quite a bit sweeter. A little of it is great in coffee!




Mel,

Not according to she who knows everything about cooking! Separate products = different recipes. (That's how Sandy and I got into this conversation in the first place.)

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  Posted 21/02/2009 06:34:01 PM
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Evaporated milk has had 60% of its water removed, and condensed about 50%, with corn or cane sugar added as a preservative. When I bake and a recipe calls for one but I only have the other, I sometimes adjust the sugar up or down to compensate. My cookies and pies have turned out just fine. Sometimes the joy of cooking is to experiment, but the boss is exactly correct that they are not the same thing and evaporated milk should probably not be used at C/H/P events. Mainstreamers'll let ya' get away with it though.

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  Posted 22/02/2009 09:01:44 AM
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Bill,

There are two theories reguarding winning an argument with a woman. Neither one of them work.

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 Curtis Makamson
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  Posted 22/02/2009 09:26:33 AM
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According to my good wife of 30 plus years.  ,

Womens' faults are many,
But men have only two:
Everything they say,
Everything they do.  

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  Posted 22/02/2009 10:24:29 AM
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  Posted 23/02/2009 11:20:03 PM
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Who uses Evaporated milk? Not us mainstreamers...we're not that wimpy.  The only problem is that today's condensed milk costs 10X what it did during the ACW.....$3.50 vs $.35.....of course at $13 / month pay that $.35 / can costs a pretty penny.  

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  Posted 25/02/2009 02:05:02 PM
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Gail Borden, the inventor of condensed milk, spent a lot of time in Texas. He also developed a meat biscuit for travelers; Fredrick Law Olmstead wrote that they were prettty bad, not good enough to eat. Here is the Handbook of Texas Online entry for Borden.

http://www.tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/BB/fbo24.html

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 Bill
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  Posted 25/02/2009 06:41:52 PM
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Annette Bethke wrote : Gail Borden, the inventor of condensed milk, spent a lot of time in Texas.  Here is the Handbook of Texas Online entry for Borden.




Sort of interesting Borden made his fortune selling condensed milk to the Union Army and then moved back to Texas after the War.

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