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| Author : | Topic: Pocket Watch Help | Bottom |
| Taffy Posts : 89 No, the other Jeff Davis ![]() |
Here is a repro watch from Blockade Runner. It looks pretty good. http://www.blockaderunner.com/Catalog/catpg28a.html | |||
| Jeff Davis A-12 6th OVI http://6thohio.homestead.com/ |
| Marc Posts : 166 Know Your History For We Are Judges Of The Future |
Looks good to me with Roman numerals etc....just so you know what time it is should work well. Over the years I have been Sgt Maj at a few events and I used a small battery powered travel alarm clock, not period but it did the job. Usually I was up before the alarm anyways. I have always wanted an orginal just to have and for the cicilian impression and maybe living histories, but to use at a reenactment I would never carry an orginal unless I was (it will not happen)the commanding general or colonel. ![]() | |||
| Marc Riddell Co D 1st Minnesota 2nd USSS Potomac Legion |
| Rob Posts : 19 |
Those watches from Blockade Runner have no second hand (which just about every watch made had back then), and they are about a size 12, which would have been considered a "ladies' watch" at the time. I have an full-size (size 18) 1883 Elgin KW/KS which looks identical to watches made 20 years earlier, for a fraction of the cost. It keeps time to less than five seconds per day (not too shabby for only a 7-jewel movement). I take it everywhere, including reenactments. It's built like a brick ****-house and I could probably knock someone cold with it if I ever decided to swing it as a weapon. Get a watch that ticks! | |||
| R.L. ("Rob") Griffiths |
| Michael Schaffner Posts : 231 Only the insane take themselves quite seriously -- Max Beerbohm |
I broke down and got a really really cheap farbometer while I try to make a decision. I'm grateful for the suggestion about Blockade Runner, but something about it made me think I could get the same for less elsewhere. For a long term solution I'm leaning toward a modern mechanical pocketwatch, which would be really expensive but something I could use every day. On the other hand, Rob, you've got me re-interested in originals now. Some reasonably period watches are out there in the $150-300 range. How often do you need to get yours serviced (I've heard you should do this every few years), and how hard is it to find a watch repair place? BTW, some interesting sites out there, including this one: http://www.antique-watch.com/txt/cat52i.html Among the things I noticed and wouldn't have suspected were the presence of second hands along with the hour and minute hands (rather than second hands on a subdial) and the use of arabic numerals in the 19th century. | |||
| Michael A. Schaffner Co. 'BSS', 16th Michigan Scrivener's Mess |
| Curtis Makamson Posts : 324 |
Michael, Check out the following site. It may not be what you are looking for but it will illustrate a few pocket watches for comparison purposes. http://www.gentlemansemporium.com/store/watches.php?from=leftnav | |||
| Curtis Makamson, Pascagoula, MS |
| Rob Posts : 19 |
The Elgin came from eBay, and was supposedly "recently serviced", so I haven't done anything with it. I paid $155 for it. It was a typical working-man's watch at the time. Getting it regulated was a bit of a pain, because my house can get extremely cold in the winter and the regulator is really touchy. When I got it to within +5 seconds per day, I left it there. You simply cannot get the accuracy of a 21-jewel movement with only seven jewels. Finding a good watchmaker can be tough, because it's a dying art. I managed to find a local jeweler who works with an old-time watchmaker, and from whom he is learning the art. There are some on the Web. Google "pocket watch repair" and see what comes up. Do the research before you need the service. To tell you the truth, if I ever got to the point where I needed a complete COA (clean, oil, & adjust), I might just get another watch. On the other hand, if I had a rare CW-vintage Waltham costing over $500, it would be worth spending $100-$200 to keep it going. | |||
| R.L. ("Rob") Griffiths |
| Michael Schaffner Posts : 231 Only the insane take themselves quite seriously -- Max Beerbohm |
Just thought I'd update everyone on what I ended up buying. First, while I decided how much money I really wanted to part with, I got an "Antonio" farbometer from Amazon -- the functional equivalent of the Blockade Runner piece, except that it only set me back $21, including postage and handling. We'll see how long it lasts -- if it makes it through the next week, it will have been a good deal. Second, I broke down and spent $400 for a Tissot Lepines: http://www.watchzone.com/cgi-bin/watchzone.storefront/485f954803f8c0f627440a8012520690/Export/products/T82445013?ystore This is more than many originals cost, but there are several jewelers in the immediate area who service Tissots. The only evident difference between this and an original is a Deco-style logo embossed on the back. It's stem-wind instead of key-wind but, much to my surprise, stem-winding was invented in the 1840's by Jean Adrien Philippe of Patek-Philippe (Tiffany began importing their watches in the 1850s). I learned a few other things from looking around, particularly at this site, which handles antique watches from the 17th century through the early 20th: http://www.antique-watch.com/txt/cat52i.html For example, though perhaps not PEC, one does see second hands on the same axis as the minute and hour hand, as well as arabic numerals, in watches of our period. Oh, and the Tissot is my present to myself for paying off the mortgage -- not sure if I'll ever bring myself to taking it into the field! Thanks all for your comments and advice. | |||
| Michael A. Schaffner Co. 'BSS', 16th Michigan Scrivener's Mess |
| Rob Posts : 19 |
Stem-winds were available, if you had the greenbacks for it. Most soldiers probably did not. For $400 you could have had an 1870s vintage Waltham, warranted for a year. (I am seriously thinking of selling my musket to get one of these - the watch would definitely be much more useful.) As Humphrey Bogart said, "You pays your money and you takes your choice." | |||
| R.L. ("Rob") Griffiths |
| Michael Schaffner Posts : 231 Only the insane take themselves quite seriously -- Max Beerbohm |
Yes, I could have bought an 1870s Waltham, but that still wouldn't have been from the Civil War, but I'd be just as nervous about taking it anywhere. Plus I don't know enough to know if any of the parts are original, plus I don't know anyone who cleans and repairs them (though someone told me they thought a fellow out in Strasburg might still work on antique watches). So I decided to go with a "repro" that meets my criteria for authenticity, that I can use every day, and that has dealers all around the area. For me, it was a good choice all round. I'll leave the collecting of antique watches to folks who know what they're doing. I read just enough about the subject to realize that I don't. What a soldier could afford varied from time to time and place to place. In an extreme case, a volunteer from New York state signing up at the beginning of 1864 might get more than $1,000 in Federal, state, and local bounty money. While the $400 Federal bounty was paid in installments, the state and local amounts were paid either as lump sums or in a couple of payments. So I might get me a nice watch, a private purchase sack coat, several cravats, a couple steel collars, and the weekend of a lifetime in Washington City... | |||
| Michael A. Schaffner Co. 'BSS', 16th Michigan Scrivener's Mess |
| Rob Posts : 19 |
At least it looks period. And it ticks, rather than hums. | |||
| R.L. ("Rob") Griffiths |
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