I took this from the Loyalist Arms Web Site. There has been a lot of talk about this weapon on other forums. Has anybody actually seen the rifled version of their Lorenze? Sad to say,  the photos didn't print; but they indeed looked a lot like my original Lorenze, except my weapon has the flip rear sight, rather than the block sight on the repop.

Curt, you out there?  

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Austrian infantry rifle


One of the most imported arms, second only to the Enfield, during
the American Civil War, 1861-65.

***NEWS FLASH***
We now have this historic arm available with a RIFLED, match grade barrel
in .54 cal. !!! SEE Bottom of page...

Many believe this arm is one of the most under-represented guns of the entire conflict.
The Confederate government purchased over 100,000 of these guns while the union secured over
300,000 Austrian arms, most of them Lorenzs'.
Although they received a rather cool reception from troops on both sides, they helped fill
a serious need for arms during the early days of the war. Many were used
throughout the conflict right on to Appomattox, attesting to their durability and accuracy.


This pic is a prototype model we received.
One of the interesting characteristics of this gun is the spacing of the barrel bands. It almost appears that
they were spaced haphazardly. Another feature is the front sight. It looks like it is twisted on the barrel
but this shape accommodates the angled groove in the bayonet socket.
Many, but not all originals had cheek pieces carved on the left side of the stocks. Our model
has this detail.


Closeup of the lock.
The Lorenz never had a full date stamped on the lock plate. They only had 3 digits; for example, "858"
meaning 1858.
We can supply other dates from 1854-61 at customers request . Standard date is "858".
We now have the small, Austrian double headed eagle lock stamp for marking behind the hammer
as on originals .


Closeup of front barrel band, etc. All iron hardware like the butt plate, trigger guard,
bands, etc., are characteristic of the Lorenz Rear sight is a simple block design.
Barrel is octagon to round & ram rod has brass band and is drilled like the originals.
Updated tulip shaped rammer tip is available. Picture coming soon...
Front barrel bands are properly spaced and correct,(approx. 2 1/2" apart), & offset front sight
make this repro. very accurate.

Bayonets are available @ $78.00 US
Correct cruciform style blade with leather scabbard.

These guns should be particularly desireable to Confederate reenactors as many of the
trans-Mississippi army was originally armed with this rifle.

According to the book, "Firearms From Europe" by Whisker, Hartzler, & Yantz, (page 78),
these guns were imported in .54, .55, 577, .58, .59, & .60 cal.
Our copy is made in .62 cal smoothbore to reduce production costs and save on retooling at the factory.
They are made to live fire with ball, and all proofing and loading data is sent with the musket.

Specs:
Barrel length: approx. 37 3/8
Overall length: approx. 52 7/8
Weight: approx. 8 +lbs.
Cal. .62 smoothbore ***

Proofing and loading data is supplied with these muskets.
These guns carry a 6 month warranty on all moving parts, and a 1 year warranty on springs.
Contact us for current inventory.

Price, $ 475.00 US/$ 560.50 Can.

*** Rifled version,(.54 cal.), of the Lorenz is now available @ $775.00 US !!!

We would like to thank our dear friend and associate dealer, Mr. Dykes Reber of the
Muzzle Loader Shop in Arkansas for his help with creating the rifled version of this firearm.
Mr.Reber is a veteran gunsmith who has had his work find its way into the collections of such
customers as the great Mr.Charlton Heston.

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Mr. Rodman,

 I purchased one of the Loyalist Arms Lorenz.  I actually purchased it from Mr Reber.  He had it sleeved and modern markings removed.  It has been proofed and live fired.  It is now a .54 cal  I am pleased with mine.  I know it will never be an exact duplicate, but neither are most of the weapons at the majority of events.  It does not have the flip rear sight I also purchased the 1840 Springfield Flintlock from the Mr. Reber. It also came from Loyalist.  The reason I purchased both from him,  he guarantees his rifles.  The flintlock has been in the deer woods this season. No I didn't see anything that day. Like I said I love my Lorenz.  

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Parault wrote : Mr. Rodman,  I purchased one of the Loyalist Arms Lorenz.

Mr. Parault,

Have you had an opportunity to do a side by side comparison of your Lorenz and an original? As I said, the photos looked good, but they only tell you so much.

Thanks,

Mr. Rodman,

No I have not.  I hope to get the chance soon.  I will either be really peaved or complacent.  

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Parault wrote : Mr. Rodman, No I have not.  I hope to get the chance soon.

Mr. Parault,

Please let us know what you find out, both good and bad. (I'm sure there will be both!)

First let me apologize for taking so long to reply to the Lorenz post. I finally seen my friend along with his orginial Lorenz.  It was difficult to compare due to my repo was a 1858, and his was an orginal 54.  The hammer on his was more of a sharper angle than mine.  His lockplate had a small rise at the nipple level than mine.  From a distance they both look very close.  Mine is slighly taller then his.  So I can say that there are considerable differances.  

and...nobody makes a bayonet for the repop Lorenz.

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GrumpyDave wrote : and...nobody makes a bayonet for the repop Lorenz.

Grumpy,

Funny you should mention that. I purchased an original Lorenz bayonet when I was about fifteen years old. I had no clue what weapon it fit; I just thought it was neat. I think I paid .50 cents. It was the first original weapon I ever purchased. I have purchased a few more since then, but I still have that bayonet.
Funny, the socket is too big for my original Lorenz rifle. Interchangable parts are a good thing!  

Isn't the re-pop a smooth-bore too?

Mr. Towsen,
The weapon I have is not a smooth bore.  My weapon was procured from a very reputable gunsmith in the Little Rock, Ar. area, Dykes Reber  He had the one I purchased sleeved.  I have a .54 cal. after the sleeve was placed.  You can order them as a smoothbore from Loyalist.  If you order one rifled from Loyalist, it goes to Mr. Reber to be rifled.  I have live fired my repro a coupious amount, it is exceptionally accurate.  It is what I am utilizing this year for the blackpowder part of deer season.

I do have a bayonet from Loyalist that is appropriate for my weapon.

I know Loyalist Arms makes a repo bayonet for the Lorenz for $75. Presently, they are waiting for a new shipment of 1854 Austrian Lorenz to arrive in the next few weeks. Just in time for the holidays.

Eric G.